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		<title>Verizon opening up their mobile network?  Not quite.</title>
		<link>http://www.xlml.com/aehso/2007/11/28/verizon-opening-up-their-mobile-network-not-quite/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aehso</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of headlines about Verizon opening up their mobile network to &#8220;any app, any device&#8221;.  Yawn.  In reality they are desperately trying to catchup to the US GSM networks.  To give a quick example of where Verizon are coming from (warning: this might shock GSM network users) &#8211; there are no SIM [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of headlines about <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/27/AR2007112701077.html?hpid=sec-tech">Verizon opening up their mobile network</a> to &#8220;any app, any device&#8221;.  Yawn.  In reality they are desperately trying to catchup to the US GSM networks.  To give a quick example of where Verizon are coming from (warning: this might shock GSM network users) &#8211; there are no SIM cards in Verizon phones.</p>
<p>Sadly it continues to look likely that no mobile operator will ever willingly turn their network into a dumb pipe.  After all, they openly regard it (the network/billing relationship) as <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/19/vodafone_ceo_blind/">a unique gift</a>.  From whom, is the question we should all be asking.</p>
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		<title>Vodafone Ireland Live!/Mobile Internet and ISP data charges.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aehso</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A while back I posted about Vodafone Ireland offering 500Mb for EUR9.99 per month.  Some interesting comments on that post prompted me to followup with Vodafone to clarify a few things.  Unfortunately I can&#8217;t print their response (it was &#8216;private&#8217;).  However, I can clarify a few facts: 

The package can only be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while back I posted about <a href="http://www.xlml.com/aehso/2007/08/28/vodafone-ireland-offering-500mb-for-eur999-per-month/">Vodafone Ireland offering 500Mb for EUR9.99 per month</a>.  Some interesting comments on that post prompted me to followup with Vodafone to clarify a few things.  Unfortunately I can&#8217;t print their response (it was &#8216;private&#8217;).  However, I can clarify a few facts: </p>
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<li>The <a href="http://www.vodafone.ie/vlive/costs/">package</a> can only be used to access Vodafone Live! content (i.e. data to/from the <code>live.vodafone.ie</code> gateway.)</li>
<li>The package <b>does not apply to use of your mobile phone as a modem (i.e. data to/from the <code>isp.vodafone.ie</code> gateway</b>.)</li>
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<p>With this package Vodafone charge an effective rate of â‚¬0.02 per Mb to download data from their Live service gateway up to 50Mb per day.  If you go over 50Mb per day they start charging â‚¬5.00 per Mb.</p>
<p>With their &#8220;Modest&#8221; or &#8220;Medium&#8221; data service packages (see <a href="http://www.vodafone.ie/planscosts/paymonthly/other/">Vodafone pay monthly charges</a>) they charge between â‚¬0.48 per Mb(â‚¬12/25)  or â‚¬0.30 per Mb (â‚¬15/50) to transmit data via their ISP gateway (NOT the Live! gateway).  </p>
<p>If you have not signed up for their &#8220;Modest&#8221; or &#8220;Medium&#8221; package then the data rate charge is <b>â‚¬12.80 for the first Mb and â‚¬5.12 per subsequent Mb</b>.  (2c/KB up to 512 kbs and 0.5c/kb for any usage over 512kbs).</p>
<p>So Vodafone data rates vary from a <b>minimum of â‚¬0.02/Mb (Live! data rate) to a maximum of â‚¬12.80 per Mb (general data rate) &#8211; incredible!</b>  If they had phone call charges like these the regulator would be all over them.</p>
<p>So mobile data via Vodafone remains potentially exhorbently expensive and confusing.  The confusion is compounded by Vodafone&#8217;s use of the label &#8220;Mobile Internet&#8221; for this service.  With this package a user can get access to reformatted versions of certain WWW sites.  Calling that Mobile Internet is like calling a bicycle a supercar.  The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet">Internet</a>, as in that series of interconnected tubes through which the worlds computers communicate over protocols based on Internet Protocol(IP), is completely out of bounds.  </p>
<p>This service should be called the &#8220;Vodafone Network&#8221;.  However there is nobody to regulate this type of thing, is there?</p>
<p>Vodafone do offer a 3G/GPRS broadband modem as an alternative but a) I need a service that allows me to use my existing 3G handset as a modem (so that my N800 can connect via bluetooth) and b) I don&#8217;t want to pay â‚¬30 per month for a service I&#8217;ll only use in bursts when on the road.  They also offer a business email push service but this doesn&#8217;t cater for my ssh and http protocol access requirements.</p>
<p>So, we remain in the dark ages.</p>
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		<title>Vodafone Ireland offering 500Mb for EUR9.99 per month.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aehso</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Update:  See comments on this post and my followup post before signing up for this service!]
Yesterday I was on the phone to Vodafone &#8220;Customer Care&#8221; to inquire about their mobile data rate plans.  The response I got when I told the rep that I wanted to send/receive email by using my mobile phone [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[Update:  See comments on this post and <a href="http://www.xlml.com/aehso/2007/10/25/vodafone-ireland-livemobile-internet-and-isp-data-charges/">my followup post</a> before signing up for this service!]</strong></p>
<p>Yesterday I was on the phone to Vodafone &#8220;Customer Care&#8221; to inquire about their mobile data rate plans.  The response I got when I told the rep that I wanted to send/receive email by using my mobile phone as a bluetooth modem was priceless:  &#8220;That would be very expensive.  You really don&#8217;t want to do that&#8221;.  </p>
<p>It is nice when service reps tell you what you do or don&#8217;t want isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Of course with the pricing plans Vodafone had it would indeed have been prohibitively expensive so he was trying to help.  But yet Vodafone were offering USB 3G modems for a flat rate (5Gb cap) a month.  So why couldn&#8217;t I just use my existing handset instead?  Could he explain the price difference?  I&#8217;ll let you guess the answer.</p>
<p>Clearly I wasn&#8217;t the only person to ask this question &#8211; or maybe I was and I have far more clout than I thought <img src='http://www.xlml.com/aehso/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Later that morning Vodafone <a href="http://www.enn.ie/article/94713.html">announced</a> a flat-rate plan for data access from mobile handsets &#8211; 500Mb for EUR9.99 per month for post-pay customers, EUR0.99 per day for pre-pay customers.  <strong>[Update: see comments below and my followup post - this plan does not allow use of isp.vodafone.ie gateway]</strong>.  You couldn&#8217;t replace your home broadband connection with it but if you are a bit of a road warrior (e.g. N770/N800 users or if you have a laptop and occasionally leave your house at weekends/evenings) then it might be of interest.  Don&#8217;t even think of using it abroad though &#8211; those foreign bits are so different they cost way more to move around.</p>
<p>I suppose you can only strangle the market for so long with exorbitant  pricing before the regulators start sniffing around.  Of course this plan makes the current O2/3/Meteor data plan offerings pale in comparison so I suspect within a few weeks they will announce either an identical price plan or a plan that effectively costs the same amount per Mb per month &#8211; &lt;cough&gt;oligopoly&lt;/cough&gt;.  Watch this space.</p>
<p>BTW, for OS X users out there <a href="http://home2.btconnect.com/Taniwha/">here are modem scripts and settings</a> a variety of handsets as a bluetooth modems with OS X. I&#8217;ve used the SonyEricsson scripts and they work beautifully.  If only the service was as free&#8230;</p>
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